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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally translated as 'Who will guard the guards themselves?', though it is also known by variant translations, such as 'Who watches the watchers?' and 'Who will watch the watchmen?'.

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The original context deals with the problem of ensuring marital fidelity, though the phrase is now commonly used more generally to refer to the problem of controlling the actions of persons in positions of power, an issue discussed by Plato in the Republic. It is not clear whether the phrase was written by Juvenal, or whether the passage in which it appears was interpolated into his works.

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Original context[edit]

The phrase, as it is normally quoted in Latin, comes from the Satires of Juvenal, the 1st–2nd century Romansatirist. Although in its modern usage the phrase has universal, timeless applications to concepts such as tyrannicalgovernments, uncontrollably oppressive dictatorships, and police or judicial corruption and overreach, in context within Juvenal's poem it refers to the impossibility of enforcing moral behaviour on women when the enforcers (custodes) are corruptible (Satire 6, 346–348):

audio quid ueteres olim moneatis amici,
'pone seram, cohibe.' sed quis custodiet ipsos
custodes? cauta est et ab illis incipit uxor.

I hear always the admonishment of my friends:
'Bolt her in, constrain her!' But who will guard
the guardians? The wife plans ahead and begins with them.

Modern editors regard these three lines as an interpolation inserted into the text. In 1899 an undergraduate student at Oxford, E. O. Winstedt, discovered a manuscript (now known as O, for Oxoniensis) containing 34 lines which some believe to have been omitted from other texts of Juvenal's poem.[1] The debate on this manuscript is ongoing, but even if the verses are not by Juvenal, it is likely that it preserves the original context of the phrase.[2] If so, the original context is as follows (O 29–33):

.. noui
consilia et ueteres quaecumque monetis amici,
'pone seram, cohibes.' sed quis custodiet ipsos
custodes? qui nunc lasciuae furta puellae
hac mercede silent crimen commune tacetur.

.. I know
the plan that my friends always advise me to adopt:
'Bolt her in, constrain her!' But who can watch
the watchmen? They keep quiet about the girl's
secrets and get her as their payment; everyone hushes it up.

Reference to political power[edit]

'WHO POLICES THE POLICE?' on graffiti in Indianapolis in response to the George Floyd protests.
'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes' written on a wall in Washington, DC during the George Floyd protests

This phrase is used generally to consider the embodiment of the philosophical question as to how power can be held to account. It is sometimes incorrectly attributed as a direct quotation from Plato's Republic in both popular media and academic contexts.[3] There is no exact parallel in the Republic, but it is used by modern authors to express Socrates' concerns about the guardians, the solution to which is to properly train their souls.

Several 19th-century examples of the association with Plato can be found, often dropping 'ipsos'.[4][5]John Stuart Mill quotes it thus in Considerations on Representative Government (1861), though without reference to Plato. Plato's Republic though was hardly ever referenced by classical Latin authors like Juvenal, and it has been noted that it simply disappeared from literary awareness for a thousand years except for traces in the writings of Cicero and St. Augustine.[6] In the Republic, a putatively perfect society is described by Socrates, the main character in this Socratic dialogue.

Socrates proposed a guardian class to protect that society, and the custodes (watchmen) from the Satires are often interpreted as being parallel to the Platonic guardians (phylakes in Greek). Socrates' answer to the problem is, in essence, that the guardians will be manipulated to guard themselves against themselves via a deception often called the 'noble lie' in English.[7]As Leonid Hurwicz pointed out in his 2007 lecture on accepting the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, one of Socrates' interlocutors in the Republic, Glaucon, even goes so far as to say 'it would be absurd that a guardian should need a guard.'[8]

The issue of the accountability of political power, traced back to different passages of the Old and New Testaments, received great attention in medieval and early modern Christian thought, especially in connection with the exercise of authority in the Church and in church-state relations.[9] In the Protestant tradition it also animated the debate about who was to be the final arbiter in the interpretation of the Scriptures.[10][11]

In his 2013 report to the UN Human Rights Council the Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order elucidated Juvenal's continued relevance: 'Crucial remains the conviction that the government should serve the people and that its powers must be circumscribed by a Constitution and the rule of law. Juvenal's question quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who guards the guardians?) remains a central concern of democracy, since the people must always watch over the constitutional behaviour of the leaders and impeach them if they act in contravention of their duties. Constitutional courts must fulfil this need and civil society should show solidarity with human rights defenders and whistleblowers who, far from being unpatriotic, perform a democratic service to their countries and the world.'[12]

In popular culture[edit]

The question 'Who watches the watchmen?' often partially appears as graffiti scrawled in the background of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' graphic novelWatchmen, but the phrase is never seen in its entirety.[13] Moore stated in an interview that the title of the series related directly to this question, although at the time of the interview Moore did not know where the sentence originated.[14]

Science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein chose the original Latin phrase as the motto of the Solar Patrol, as depicted in his 1948 novel Space Cadet.

The internet comedy group LoadingReadyRun made a video parodying the question of 'Who watches the Watchmen?', proposing that the Watchmen watch the city, the 'Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation' watch the Watchmen, the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation' watch the Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation, and Geoff watches the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation'. An unnamed person is seen to be watching Geoff.[15]

The independent film The Guards Themselves[16] by Kyle C. Sullivan and Ian Conn takes its title from this phrase. It tells the tale of a group of so-called anarchists who appear to be villains endeavoring to overthrow the government and who are thwarted repeatedly by supposedly heroic vigilantes. However, the government in their city is corrupted by an actually villainous group of five oligarchs, and the vigilantes are primarily out for publicity; it is the anarchists who are the true guards of their city.

An episode of Inspector Morse ('Absolute Conviction') references this quote. Whilst speaking with the prison governess Hilary Stephens in an Oxford college, Morse encounters his former college chaplain. Upon finding out that the head of a prison is off prison premises he asks 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' Morse finds it amusing since the chaplain says this every time the two meet, only this time it is 'remotely apposite'.

An episode of the animated seriesThe Simpsons refers to this philosophical question. In episode 1F09, 'Homer the Vigilante', when Homer is talking about having abused his vigilante powers, his elder daughter Lisa asks, 'If you're the police, who will police the police?' Homer responds, 'I don't know. Coast Guard?'[17]

It appears frequently in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, usually heard from Sir Samuel Vimes, commander of the City Watch. He answers it in Thud!, though very briefly, with the line 'I do'. When asked who watches over him, he follows it up with 'I do, too'. It also appears in Feet of Clay and I Shall Wear Midnight. It first appears in Guards! Guards! from a citizen, also addressed to Vimes, as: 'Quis custodiet custard?'

'Who Watches the Watchers' is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation involving a group of anthropologists who are observing a primitive culture from a concealed location, but are revealed following an accident.

In Dan Brown's novel Digital Fortress, the phrase appears engraved in a ring owned by Ensei Tankado, a former NSA employee who disapproved of the NSA's intrusion into the people's private lives. The phrase is aimed at the NSA who check for any information on emails sent over the web that endanger national security. The phrase asks who will keep the NSA in check, as they do others. Google chrome for mac os x 10.4.11 mac os x 10 4 11.

In Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? by Dr. Seuss, the entire town of Hawtch-Hawtch is employed as watchers watching over other watchers leading to the first watcher who is watching the 'lazy town bee' so it will work harder. Since the bee wasn't working harder, it was assumed the bee-watcher wasn't watching hard enough and needed to be watched.

In the video game Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, the seventh Terminal's description is 'Who monitors the Monitor?', and details 343 Guilty Spark's frustration with loneliness. The replacement of 'watchmen' with 'Monitor' is a reference to Guilty Spark's position of Monitor of Installation 04.[18]

During an episode of Justice League Unlimited, Batman says the phrase to Green Arrow after Arrow talked Superman and the other founding members out of disbanding the League. Green Arrow translates the Latin to 'Who guards the guardians'. Superman's reason for disbanding the League was that the League were guilty of arrogance, and have alienated the people they were trying to protect. Green Arrow's reason not to disband is that no matter what, they are still heroes and needed greatly.

In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the phrase is handwritten on a floor support near the staircase as Batman carries a weakened Superman over his shoulder at the climax of their duel.

In the Person of Interest television series, if The Machine ever suffered a hard reset it would then ring a public phone and ask the phrase, and whoever answered the call would have administrative access for 24 hours.

In the comic book series Countdown to Final Crisis, Donna Troy asks the question 'Who monitors the monitors?' in regards to the 52 monitors from parallel universes and who will keep them in line, following the events of the story.

In Letter VIII of 'Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism',[19] on Justice (Tarot card), the anonymous author (now known to have been Valentin Tomberg) includes the phrase in one of the opening epigraphs as follows: 'Quis custodiat custodes? (Who will guard the guards?. . . The fundamental problem of jurisprudence)'.

In the video game The Evil Within 2, the character Julian Sykes quotes the Latin phrase to protagonist Sebastian Castellanos in reference to Sykes himself having found an escape route, with Sykes abandoning his mission by the company Mobius that hired him. Sebastian expresses confusion at the phrase when given no explanation.

In the first episode of Watchmen, the character Police Chief Judd Crawford quotes the Latin phrase to his assembled Tulsa, Oklahoma, police force to invoke Article 4, which allows the 24-hour release of deadly weapons. The police force calls back, in unison, 'Nos costodimus', which means 'we uphold'.

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^E. O. Winstedt 1899, 'A Bodleian MS of Juvenal', Classical Review 13: 201–205.
  2. ^Recently J. D. Sosin 2000, 'Ausonius' Juvenal and the Winstedt fragment', Classical Philology 95.2: 199–206 has argued for an early date for the poem.
  3. ^E.g. Who Are The Watchmen?; T. Besley and J.A. Robinson, 'Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Civilian Control over the Military', Journal of the European Economic Association v. 8, pp. 655–663, 2010; and P. Corning, The Fair Society: The Science of Human Nature and the Pursuit of Social Justice, University of Chicago Press, p. 146, 2011.
  4. ^Oxenham, H.N. (1878). 'Moral and Religious Estimate of Vivisection'. Gentleman's Magazine, and Historical Chronicle. 243 (Jul. to Dec): 732.
  5. ^Maguire, Thomas (1866). An Essay on the Platonic Idea. London: Longmans, Green, Reader, and Dyer. p. 39.
  6. ^Jayapalan, N. (2002). Comprehensive Study of Plato. Atlantic Publishers & Dist. p. 10.
  7. ^Plato (2008) [c. 380 BC]. The Republic. Benjamin Jowett, transl; EBook produced by Sue Asscher and David Widger. Project Gutenberg. How then may we devise one of those needful falsehoods of which we lately spoke – just one royal lie which may deceive the rulers, if that be possible, and at any rate the rest of the city?
  8. ^Book III, XII, 403E, p. 264 (Greek) and p. 265 (English), in volume I, of Plato, The Republic (ΠΟΛΙΤΕΙΑ), with an English translation by Paul Shorey, London, William Heinemann Ltd.; New York: G. P. Putnam's sons, 1930, as cited by Leonid Hurwicz, ' But Who Will Guard the Guardians?', Nobel Prize Lecture, December 8, 2007, Accessed April 27, 2011.
  9. ^Matis, Hannah W. (2019). The Song of Songs in the Early Middle Ages. Brill. pp. 117–38.
  10. ^Eco, Umberto (1984). Semiotics and the Philosophy of Language. Indiana University Press. p. 150.
  11. ^Guarino, Thomas G. (2013). Vincent of Lérins and the Development of Christian Doctrine. Baker Academic. p. 119.
  12. ^https://ap.ohchr.org/documents/dpage_e.aspx?si=A/HRC/24/38, paragraph 52
  13. ^Atkinson, Doug. The Annotated Watchmen. http://www.capnwacky.com/rj/watchmen/chapter1.html.[permanent dead link]
  14. ^Plowright, Frank. 'Preview: Watchmen'. Amazing Heroes. June 15, 1986.
  15. ^'Watchmen Watching'.
  16. ^The Guards Themselves on IMDb
  17. ^[1F09] Homer the VigilanteArchived 1997-07-10 at the Wayback Machine
  18. ^343 Industries. Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. Xbox 360. Microsoft Game Studios
  19. ^http://www.fourhares.com/pdfs/mott/Letter-8.pdf

External links[edit]

Latin Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Wikisource has original text related to this article:
  • Satire VI in Latin, at The Latin Library
  • Satire VI in English (translation by G. G. Ramsay) at the Internet Ancient History Sourcebook
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Ingredients:

1 TBS olive oil1 1/2 cups uncooked macaroni noodles1 can Low-Fat Cheese Soup1/2 Can Water3/4 cup Low-Fat Milk

1. Place a TBS of Olive oil in the bottom of your Pressure Cooker XL.

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3. Next, add in the rest of the recipe ingredients.

4. Then press cancel and leave the pasta in the pot for ten minutes.

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7. Then once it is done use your mitts (insert link) and let the steam evaporate.

8. Stir the mac and cheese.

9. Place it in a bowl and enjoy this pressure cooker mac and cheese.

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1/2 Can Water

3/4 cup Low-Fat Milk

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a Latin phrase found in the work of the Roman poet Juvenal from his Satires (Satire VI, lines 347–348). It is literally translated as 'Who will guard the guards themselves?', though it is also known by variant translations, such as 'Who watches the watchers?' and 'Who will watch the watchmen?'.

The original context deals with the problem of ensuring marital fidelity, though the phrase is now commonly used more generally to refer to the problem of controlling the actions of persons in positions of power, an issue discussed by Plato in the Republic. It is not clear whether the phrase was written by Juvenal, or whether the passage in which it appears was interpolated into his works.

For instance, you could try the one-pot version made with ZeroPoint® butternut squash, or opt for portion-controlled (and extra fun!) mac-and-cheese doughnuts. For more ideas—like adding broccoli to bulk up your serving size or stirring in bacon for a flavor burst—read on and get cooking!

  1. ‎We've got weight loss down to a science. With WW (Weight Watchers® Reimagined), all you need to do is be you! Let our new, in-depth personal assessment get to know you first - from there, we'll scientifically match you with a personalised weight-loss plan. Plus, the new myWW+ has even more of what y.
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Original context[edit]

The phrase, as it is normally quoted in Latin, comes from the Satires of Juvenal, the 1st–2nd century Romansatirist. Although in its modern usage the phrase has universal, timeless applications to concepts such as tyrannicalgovernments, uncontrollably oppressive dictatorships, and police or judicial corruption and overreach, in context within Juvenal's poem it refers to the impossibility of enforcing moral behaviour on women when the enforcers (custodes) are corruptible (Satire 6, 346–348):

audio quid ueteres olim moneatis amici,
'pone seram, cohibe.' sed quis custodiet ipsos
custodes? cauta est et ab illis incipit uxor.

I hear always the admonishment of my friends:
'Bolt her in, constrain her!' But who will guard
the guardians? The wife plans ahead and begins with them.

Modern editors regard these three lines as an interpolation inserted into the text. In 1899 an undergraduate student at Oxford, E. O. Winstedt, discovered a manuscript (now known as O, for Oxoniensis) containing 34 lines which some believe to have been omitted from other texts of Juvenal's poem.[1] The debate on this manuscript is ongoing, but even if the verses are not by Juvenal, it is likely that it preserves the original context of the phrase.[2] If so, the original context is as follows (O 29–33):

.. noui
consilia et ueteres quaecumque monetis amici,
'pone seram, cohibes.' sed quis custodiet ipsos
custodes? qui nunc lasciuae furta puellae
hac mercede silent crimen commune tacetur.

.. I know
the plan that my friends always advise me to adopt:
'Bolt her in, constrain her!' But who can watch
the watchmen? They keep quiet about the girl's
secrets and get her as their payment; everyone hushes it up.

Reference to political power[edit]

'WHO POLICES THE POLICE?' on graffiti in Indianapolis in response to the George Floyd protests.
'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes' written on a wall in Washington, DC during the George Floyd protests

This phrase is used generally to consider the embodiment of the philosophical question as to how power can be held to account. It is sometimes incorrectly attributed as a direct quotation from Plato's Republic in both popular media and academic contexts.[3] There is no exact parallel in the Republic, but it is used by modern authors to express Socrates' concerns about the guardians, the solution to which is to properly train their souls.

Several 19th-century examples of the association with Plato can be found, often dropping 'ipsos'.[4][5]John Stuart Mill quotes it thus in Considerations on Representative Government (1861), though without reference to Plato. Plato's Republic though was hardly ever referenced by classical Latin authors like Juvenal, and it has been noted that it simply disappeared from literary awareness for a thousand years except for traces in the writings of Cicero and St. Augustine.[6] In the Republic, a putatively perfect society is described by Socrates, the main character in this Socratic dialogue.

Socrates proposed a guardian class to protect that society, and the custodes (watchmen) from the Satires are often interpreted as being parallel to the Platonic guardians (phylakes in Greek). Socrates' answer to the problem is, in essence, that the guardians will be manipulated to guard themselves against themselves via a deception often called the 'noble lie' in English.[7]As Leonid Hurwicz pointed out in his 2007 lecture on accepting the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, one of Socrates' interlocutors in the Republic, Glaucon, even goes so far as to say 'it would be absurd that a guardian should need a guard.'[8]

The issue of the accountability of political power, traced back to different passages of the Old and New Testaments, received great attention in medieval and early modern Christian thought, especially in connection with the exercise of authority in the Church and in church-state relations.[9] In the Protestant tradition it also animated the debate about who was to be the final arbiter in the interpretation of the Scriptures.[10][11]

In his 2013 report to the UN Human Rights Council the Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order elucidated Juvenal's continued relevance: 'Crucial remains the conviction that the government should serve the people and that its powers must be circumscribed by a Constitution and the rule of law. Juvenal's question quis custodiet ipsos custodes (who guards the guardians?) remains a central concern of democracy, since the people must always watch over the constitutional behaviour of the leaders and impeach them if they act in contravention of their duties. Constitutional courts must fulfil this need and civil society should show solidarity with human rights defenders and whistleblowers who, far from being unpatriotic, perform a democratic service to their countries and the world.'[12]

In popular culture[edit]

The question 'Who watches the watchmen?' often partially appears as graffiti scrawled in the background of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' graphic novelWatchmen, but the phrase is never seen in its entirety.[13] Moore stated in an interview that the title of the series related directly to this question, although at the time of the interview Moore did not know where the sentence originated.[14]

Science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein chose the original Latin phrase as the motto of the Solar Patrol, as depicted in his 1948 novel Space Cadet.

The internet comedy group LoadingReadyRun made a video parodying the question of 'Who watches the Watchmen?', proposing that the Watchmen watch the city, the 'Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation' watch the Watchmen, the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation' watch the Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation, and Geoff watches the 'Watching The Neighbourhood Watchmen Watching Organisation Organisation'. An unnamed person is seen to be watching Geoff.[15]

The independent film The Guards Themselves[16] by Kyle C. Sullivan and Ian Conn takes its title from this phrase. It tells the tale of a group of so-called anarchists who appear to be villains endeavoring to overthrow the government and who are thwarted repeatedly by supposedly heroic vigilantes. However, the government in their city is corrupted by an actually villainous group of five oligarchs, and the vigilantes are primarily out for publicity; it is the anarchists who are the true guards of their city.

An episode of Inspector Morse ('Absolute Conviction') references this quote. Whilst speaking with the prison governess Hilary Stephens in an Oxford college, Morse encounters his former college chaplain. Upon finding out that the head of a prison is off prison premises he asks 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes?' Morse finds it amusing since the chaplain says this every time the two meet, only this time it is 'remotely apposite'.

An episode of the animated seriesThe Simpsons refers to this philosophical question. In episode 1F09, 'Homer the Vigilante', when Homer is talking about having abused his vigilante powers, his elder daughter Lisa asks, 'If you're the police, who will police the police?' Homer responds, 'I don't know. Coast Guard?'[17]

It appears frequently in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, usually heard from Sir Samuel Vimes, commander of the City Watch. He answers it in Thud!, though very briefly, with the line 'I do'. When asked who watches over him, he follows it up with 'I do, too'. It also appears in Feet of Clay and I Shall Wear Midnight. It first appears in Guards! Guards! from a citizen, also addressed to Vimes, as: 'Quis custodiet custard?'

'Who Watches the Watchers' is an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation involving a group of anthropologists who are observing a primitive culture from a concealed location, but are revealed following an accident.

In Dan Brown's novel Digital Fortress, the phrase appears engraved in a ring owned by Ensei Tankado, a former NSA employee who disapproved of the NSA's intrusion into the people's private lives. The phrase is aimed at the NSA who check for any information on emails sent over the web that endanger national security. The phrase asks who will keep the NSA in check, as they do others. Google chrome for mac os x 10.4.11 mac os x 10 4 11.

In Did I Ever Tell You How Lucky You Are? by Dr. Seuss, the entire town of Hawtch-Hawtch is employed as watchers watching over other watchers leading to the first watcher who is watching the 'lazy town bee' so it will work harder. Since the bee wasn't working harder, it was assumed the bee-watcher wasn't watching hard enough and needed to be watched.

In the video game Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary, the seventh Terminal's description is 'Who monitors the Monitor?', and details 343 Guilty Spark's frustration with loneliness. The replacement of 'watchmen' with 'Monitor' is a reference to Guilty Spark's position of Monitor of Installation 04.[18]

During an episode of Justice League Unlimited, Batman says the phrase to Green Arrow after Arrow talked Superman and the other founding members out of disbanding the League. Green Arrow translates the Latin to 'Who guards the guardians'. Superman's reason for disbanding the League was that the League were guilty of arrogance, and have alienated the people they were trying to protect. Green Arrow's reason not to disband is that no matter what, they are still heroes and needed greatly.

In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the phrase is handwritten on a floor support near the staircase as Batman carries a weakened Superman over his shoulder at the climax of their duel.

In the Person of Interest television series, if The Machine ever suffered a hard reset it would then ring a public phone and ask the phrase, and whoever answered the call would have administrative access for 24 hours.

In the comic book series Countdown to Final Crisis, Donna Troy asks the question 'Who monitors the monitors?' in regards to the 52 monitors from parallel universes and who will keep them in line, following the events of the story.

In Letter VIII of 'Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism',[19] on Justice (Tarot card), the anonymous author (now known to have been Valentin Tomberg) includes the phrase in one of the opening epigraphs as follows: 'Quis custodiat custodes? (Who will guard the guards?. . . The fundamental problem of jurisprudence)'.

In the video game The Evil Within 2, the character Julian Sykes quotes the Latin phrase to protagonist Sebastian Castellanos in reference to Sykes himself having found an escape route, with Sykes abandoning his mission by the company Mobius that hired him. Sebastian expresses confusion at the phrase when given no explanation.

In the first episode of Watchmen, the character Police Chief Judd Crawford quotes the Latin phrase to his assembled Tulsa, Oklahoma, police force to invoke Article 4, which allows the 24-hour release of deadly weapons. The police force calls back, in unison, 'Nos costodimus', which means 'we uphold'.

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  1. ^E. O. Winstedt 1899, 'A Bodleian MS of Juvenal', Classical Review 13: 201–205.
  2. ^Recently J. D. Sosin 2000, 'Ausonius' Juvenal and the Winstedt fragment', Classical Philology 95.2: 199–206 has argued for an early date for the poem.
  3. ^E.g. Who Are The Watchmen?; T. Besley and J.A. Robinson, 'Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Civilian Control over the Military', Journal of the European Economic Association v. 8, pp. 655–663, 2010; and P. Corning, The Fair Society: The Science of Human Nature and the Pursuit of Social Justice, University of Chicago Press, p. 146, 2011.
  4. ^Oxenham, H.N. (1878). 'Moral and Religious Estimate of Vivisection'. Gentleman's Magazine, and Historical Chronicle. 243 (Jul. to Dec): 732.
  5. ^Maguire, Thomas (1866). An Essay on the Platonic Idea. London: Longmans, Green, Reader, and Dyer. p. 39.
  6. ^Jayapalan, N. (2002). Comprehensive Study of Plato. Atlantic Publishers & Dist. p. 10.
  7. ^Plato (2008) [c. 380 BC]. The Republic. Benjamin Jowett, transl; EBook produced by Sue Asscher and David Widger. Project Gutenberg. How then may we devise one of those needful falsehoods of which we lately spoke – just one royal lie which may deceive the rulers, if that be possible, and at any rate the rest of the city?
  8. ^Book III, XII, 403E, p. 264 (Greek) and p. 265 (English), in volume I, of Plato, The Republic (ΠΟΛΙΤΕΙΑ), with an English translation by Paul Shorey, London, William Heinemann Ltd.; New York: G. P. Putnam's sons, 1930, as cited by Leonid Hurwicz, ' But Who Will Guard the Guardians?', Nobel Prize Lecture, December 8, 2007, Accessed April 27, 2011.
  9. ^Matis, Hannah W. (2019). The Song of Songs in the Early Middle Ages. Brill. pp. 117–38.
  10. ^Eco, Umberto (1984). Semiotics and the Philosophy of Language. Indiana University Press. p. 150.
  11. ^Guarino, Thomas G. (2013). Vincent of Lérins and the Development of Christian Doctrine. Baker Academic. p. 119.
  12. ^https://ap.ohchr.org/documents/dpage_e.aspx?si=A/HRC/24/38, paragraph 52
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  15. ^'Watchmen Watching'.
  16. ^The Guards Themselves on IMDb
  17. ^[1F09] Homer the VigilanteArchived 1997-07-10 at the Wayback Machine
  18. ^343 Industries. Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. Xbox 360. Microsoft Game Studios
  19. ^http://www.fourhares.com/pdfs/mott/Letter-8.pdf

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  • Satire VI in Latin, at The Latin Library
  • Satire VI in English (translation by G. G. Ramsay) at the Internet Ancient History Sourcebook
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Lately because of all the snow my little one has been home with me more than normal. Don't get me wrong, I love spending time with that little girl, but trying to find something for her to eat for lunch besides a sandwich can prove difficult when I'm still trying to get some work done. Recently our family has started doing Weight Watchers so I wanted to make sure I could make something for lunch that we would both enjoy, but not undo our day. Mac and Cheese is my daughters favorite thing to have no matter the time of day so I went in search of a Weight Watchers Mac and Cheese Recipe and found one that was easy to make and tastes exactly like 'normal' Mac and Cheese. Your kids will love it and at only 4 Weight Watchers Points you will too! You can also make some Weight Watchers Berry Cobbler Cake to serve as a treat.

And since I'm loving my pressure cooker these days, I decided to make my Power Pressure Cooker XL version of my Weight Watchers Mac and Cheese Recipe. The result is amazing! This Pressure Cooker Macaroni and Cheese Recipe is my new comfort food. The macaroni is perfectly cooked and is so flavorful.

Ingredients:

1 TBS olive oil1 1/2 cups uncooked macaroni noodles1 can Low-Fat Cheese Soup1/2 Can Water3/4 cup Low-Fat Milk

1. Place a TBS of Olive oil in the bottom of your Pressure Cooker XL.

2. Then hit the rice risotto button.

3. Next, add in the rest of the recipe ingredients.

4. Then press cancel and leave the pasta in the pot for ten minutes.

5. Once you have hit cancel then close the Pressure Cooker XL.

6. Hit the rice risotto button again it will stay at 6 minutes.

7. Then once it is done use your mitts (insert link) and let the steam evaporate.

8. Stir the mac and cheese.

9. Place it in a bowl and enjoy this pressure cooker mac and cheese.

If you don't have a pressure cooker, check out my Stovetop Macaroni and Cheese Recipe

Here is how to make my Weight Watchers Mac and Cheese Recipe

You Will Need:

1 1/2 cups uncooked macaroni noodles

1 can Low-Fat Cheese Soup

1/2 Can Water

3/4 cup Low-Fat Milk

First, Cook your noodles according to package directions and drain.

Next, Return your noodles to the pot and add in your milk, cheese soup, and water. Stir well and bring to a boil, once boiling lower heat and let simmer about 5 minutes or until thick and creamy.

Last, spoon into serving bowls (1 cup per serving) and top with a little salt and pepper and a small pinch of cheddar cheese (if you would like!) and serve.

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SavePrint Weight Watchers Macaroni And Cheese Recipe {Only 4 Points!}

Ingredients

  • 1½ cups uncooked macaroni noodles
  • 1 can Low-Fat Cheese Soup
  • ½ Can Water
  • ¾ cup Low Fat Milk

Instructions

  1. First, Cook your noodles according to package directions and drain.
  2. Next, Return your noodles to the pot and add in your milk, cheese soup, and water. Stir well and bring to a boil, once boiling lower heat and let simmer about 5 minutes or until thick and creamy.
  3. Last, spoon into serving bowls (1 cup per serving) and top with a little salt and pepper and a small pinch of cheddar cheese (if you would like!) and serve.
  4. Pressure Cooker Macaroni and Cheese Recipe
  5. Place a TBS of Olive oil in the bottom of your Pressure Cooker XL.
  6. Then hit the rice risotto button.
  7. Next, add in the rest of the recipe ingredients.
  8. Then press cancel and leave the pasta in the pot for ten minutes (Do in different color font).
  9. Once you have hit cancel then close the Pressure Cooker XL.
  10. Hit the rice risotto button again it will stay at 6 minutes.
  11. Then once it is done use your mitts (insert link) and let the steam evaporate.
  12. Stir the mac and cheese.
  13. Place it in a bowl and enjoy this pressure cooker mac and cheese.

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